Tickets Exchange

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God
Tuesday, August 8th, 2017, 12:02:25 PM

Dear Developers,

I predict we will start to amass a considerable sum of Bloodscrip, Tickets or what have you on our characters. I was hoping if there would be a way for us to redeem these tickets for storage purposes and unredeem them into physical tickets for exchange purposes with other players. If there is already a method to do this then disregard. Thank you so much for all your hard work!

Sincerely,

Tim

Tuesday, August 8th, 2017, 12:03:49 PM

There is already a method in the leather pouches that are available. They allow you to place the physical scrip certificates and remove a particular amount. I believe they cost 300 scrip last time around.

God
Tuesday, August 8th, 2017, 12:10:31 PM

@whirlin

I guess I missed them due to my singular focus in the arena. Splendid, thank you kindly Whirlin.

allereli
Tuesday, August 8th, 2017, 12:11:25 PM

I've requested removal of all costs for managing currencies and integration with the bank system on the officials. these pouches are too easily lose-able.

Wyrom
Tuesday, August 8th, 2017, 12:24:33 PM

Yes, it's currently being discussed. We'll come up with a solution.

God
Tuesday, August 8th, 2017, 12:25:00 PM

@allereli

A solid idea! Great work allereli.

God
Tuesday, August 8th, 2017, 12:26:24 PM

@wyrom

Fantastic. I look forward to it. Thank you for all the hard work for our game!

Sacru
Wednesday, August 9th, 2017, 12:24:24 AM

How about a method of converting general tickets (or whatever currency) to bloodscrip? Strictly a selfish request ;)

Wednesday, August 9th, 2017, 8:25:43 AM

@sacru said in Tickets Exchange:

How about a method of converting general tickets (or whatever currency) to bloodscrip? Strictly a selfish request ;)

You heard it here first, Sacru wants to exchange his premium points into blood scrip.

I think twisting words like that makes me ready to be a GM now.

Sacru
Wednesday, August 9th, 2017, 1:46:24 PM

@whirlin touché...

Sacru
Wednesday, August 9th, 2017, 2:08:58 PM

@Whirlin In all seriousness, though... When I initially read the title, had assumed we were talking about a different type of exchange. I've got close to 300k E.G. tickets that I probably couldn't get a ham sandwich for it I tried, and would gladly trade for 150k bloodscrip at this point. I'm not the only one.

Would be nice if we had a system for this in place like a currency exchange. Why have so many currencies if none of them can be converted? Liquidity could foster trust, and trust boosts markets. Fear generally does the opposite. Even irrational fear. I realize the idea of these paid events is to start forcing people to A) work for their currency, in a time-limited setting, increasing the mania factor, boosting general interest, or B) pay 2-3x as much to have someone else do it for you, versus C) silver-mining, which pays about $6/hr if you're not AFK scripting.

As I said -- totally selfish request. Just wondering if there will ever be a way to effectively convert these various currencies using some in-game mechanic.

Alastir
Wednesday, August 9th, 2017, 2:38:40 PM

@sacru said in Tickets Exchange:

@Whirlin In all seriousness, though... When I initially read the title, had assumed we were talking about a different type of exchange. I've got close to 300k E.G. tickets that I probably couldn't get a ham sandwich for it I tried, and would gladly trade for 150k bloodscrip at this point. I'm not the only one.

I hate to say it, but that is a prime example of why conversions shouldn't be allowed - At least when it comes to bloodscrip.

I would have no issue with EG tickets and say Blackscrip being convertible.

Sacru
Wednesday, August 9th, 2017, 3:23:08 PM

@alastir said in Tickets Exchange:

I hate to say it, but that is a prime example of why conversions shouldn't be allowed - At least when it comes to bloodscrip.

I would have no issue with EG tickets and say Blackscrip being convertible.

I see your point. And it's not going to happen in either case, when a secondary (i.e. organic, ungoverned) market exists for exactly such transactions or conversions.

Correct me if I'm wrong, though... weren't the E.G. tickets converted into some general currency that can be used at more than one event?

ArchSenex
Wednesday, August 9th, 2017, 5:10:53 PM

@sacru said in Tickets Exchange:

@alastir said in Tickets Exchange:

I hate to say it, but that is a prime example of why conversions shouldn't be allowed - At least when it comes to bloodscrip.

I would have no issue with EG tickets and say Blackscrip being convertible.

I see your point. And it's not going to happen in either case, when a secondary (i.e. organic, ungoverned) market exists for exactly such transactions or conversions.

Correct me if I'm wrong, though... weren't the E.G. tickets converted into some general currency that can be used at more than one event?

They are the aptly named general tickets.

Wyrom has confirmed that they are discussing conversion. At least something will be proposed. I would not be surprised if anything can become general. I'd be surprised if general can become much, and definitely not bloodscrip.

Sacru
Wednesday, August 9th, 2017, 5:34:00 PM

@archsenex said in Tickets Exchange:

They are the aptly named general tickets.

One would think this would make them more valuable, not less. Could be an awareness issue, which I'm fine with. I will sit on these for now, and hope to put them to good use.

Wyrom has confirmed that they are discussing conversion. At least something will be proposed. I would not be surprised if anything can become general. I'd be surprised if general can become much, and definitely not bloodscrip.

This makes logical sense. Begs the question, is DR -- and bloodscrip specifically -- being segregated entirely from that process in order to manage supply/demand? Do you envision a day where general tickets are accepted 1:1 in place of bloodscrip at DR?

ArchSenex
Wednesday, August 9th, 2017, 5:55:47 PM

@sacru said in Tickets Exchange:

@archsenex said in Tickets Exchange:

They are the aptly named general tickets.

One would think this would make them more valuable, not less. Could be an awareness issue, which I'm fine with. I will sit on these for now, and hope to put them to good use.

Wyrom has confirmed that they are discussing conversion. At least something will be proposed. I would not be surprised if anything can become general. I'd be surprised if general can become much, and definitely not bloodscrip.

This makes logical sense. Begs the question, is DR -- and bloodscrip specifically -- being segregated entirely from that process in order to manage supply/demand? Do you envision a day where general tickets are accepted 1:1 in place of bloodscrip at DR?

Probably not. At duskruin, bloodscrip is the prize. At other venues, tickets are a consolation prize, they aren't the jackpot. You can't get a DR jackpot, after all.

They're different scales. Shells, however, will ALSO be a consolation, not the prize, so I see them swapping as making more sense.

archigeek
Wednesday, August 9th, 2017, 6:06:10 PM

The only time swapping makes sense to me is when one of these alt-currencies is largely obsolete. I think they're a pain, but worse, they're there to force you to spend, when you are already spending to acquire silvers, which are now worth less because of the alt-currencies. It's shoddy business if you ask me.

Alastir
Wednesday, August 9th, 2017, 6:11:13 PM

I've predicted before that the alt-currency is going to be too hard to manage in the long-term and it will end up killing the system. You can't have millions outstanding without it affecting future events.

What happens to DR prices when every character is sitting on 100k bloodscrip? Are the things offered now for 10k, going to be priced at 100k to offset the banking of the BS? What if only a few people bank several million in bloodscrip? Does that limit your ability to offer high end things because you'd have to price them at 750k bloodscrip to prevent someone from amassing too many of the "powerful" offerings?

archigeek
Wednesday, August 9th, 2017, 6:15:18 PM

@alastir I agree with what you're saying as well. Granted, we have that challenge with silvers, and it is mostly dealt with by limiting the number of items a person can purchase at a given event, but there's an added customer service question when you create an alt-currency to get customers to buy simucoins.. and then tell them they can't use the same alt-currency.