WPS Chart:

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Alastir
Tuesday, August 29th, 2017, 6:33:36 PM

How does this work? * At the blacksmith, you can add SP. (Up to 25 at Duskruin). * Look at the chart and find where 25 SP would be. (Between 20-30) * Since 25 is between 20-30, you're stuck at the bonus offered at 20. * Look to the left of the 20 SP row, it will have the number of PP you'll get. (2) * Look to the right of the PP column, and you'll see that at 20 SP or 2 PP, you'll have "Lightly" WPS weapon/armor.

If you already have a WPS weapon or armor. * Find the name of your padding level (heavily) and look to the right. * You'll see that HCP is either 9 or 10 PP. * Look to the right again, and you'll see that 9 or 10 PP is either 130 or 150 SP. * You'll be able to add 25 SP using the blacksmith.


  • WPS -> Weighting/Padding/Sighting
  • PP -> Padding Points
  • SP -> Service Points

|Name|PP|SP| |:---:|:---:|:---:| Lightly | 1 | 10 Lightly | 2 | 20 Fairly | 3 | 30 Fairly| 4 | 40 Somewhat | 5 | 50 Somewhat | 6 | 70 Decently | 7 | 90 Decently | 8 | 110 Heavily | 9 | 130 Heavily | 10 | 150 Very Heavily | 11 | 180 Very Heavily | 12 | 210 Very Heavily | 13 | 240 Exceptionally | 14 | 270 Exceptionally | 15 | 300 Masterfully | 16 | 340 Masterfully | 17 | 380 Masterfully | 18 | 420 Masterfully | 19 | 460 Masterfully | 20 | 500 Superbly | 25 | | 1000 Expertly | 30 | | 1500 Phenomenally | 35 | | 2000 Fantastically | 40 | | 2500 Incredibly | 45 | | 3500 Wondrously | 50 | | 5000

Mogonis
Tuesday, August 29th, 2017, 6:34:25 PM

Um...duh.

Alastir
Tuesday, August 29th, 2017, 6:34:43 PM

I couldn't find the previous chart. Wanted to make one easier to find.

ArchSenex
Tuesday, August 29th, 2017, 6:39:02 PM

at has now also been folded into the wiki's chart

Sacru
Tuesday, August 29th, 2017, 6:54:52 PM

Got 26 damage padding services performed on already crit-padded armor. Assesses now as "fairly" damage padded, which is not congruent with the chart posted above.

``` Examining the armor closely, it looks like it is fairly padded, lessening the damage the wearer takes.

It also appears that it is masterfully padded against critical blows. ```

ArchSenex
Tuesday, August 29th, 2017, 6:58:40 PM

@sacru said in WPS Chart::

Got 26 damage padding services performed on already crit-padded armor. Assesses now as "fairly" damage padded, which is not congruent with the chart posted here.

``` Examining the armor closely, it looks like it is fairly padded, lessening the damage the wearer takes.

It also appears that it is masterfully padded against critical blows. ```

26? That's not supposed to be possible.

Sacru
Tuesday, August 29th, 2017, 7:00:17 PM

@archsenex said in WPS Chart::

26? That's not supposed to be possible.

That's what I thought, too. Then I counted the success messages in Notepad++. Got 26 services.

Search: An old dwarven blacksmith takes your black scale armor from you and limps to the forge. It quickly returns, idly polishing it with a dirty rag as it hands it back to you.

26 hits.

Alastir
Tuesday, August 29th, 2017, 7:09:17 PM

@Sacru - Go to the assistant and ask him about damage

|--------------------Summary---------------------| Item: a slim-fit white leather shirt Modified Padding Type: Critical Current Service Window Count: 20

What does this show for you?

Sacru
Tuesday, August 29th, 2017, 7:12:10 PM

@alastir said in WPS Chart::

@Sacru - Go to the assistant and ask him about damage

|--------------------Summary---------------------| Item: a slim-fit white leather shirt Modified Padding Type: Critical Current Service Window Count: 20

What does this show for you?

When I ask him, if memory serves, says something about enough work has been performed, come try again later. I could get the exact message if you want.

ArchSenex
Tuesday, August 29th, 2017, 7:13:59 PM

also, I believe somebody said that assess always rounds up, so once you hit 21, it will be "fairly"

I hope they update assess to just give the level. The words always annoyed me.

Alastir
Tuesday, August 29th, 2017, 7:14:46 PM

@sacru said in WPS Chart::

@alastir said in WPS Chart::

@Sacru - Go to the assistant and ask him about damage

|--------------------Summary---------------------| Item: a slim-fit white leather shirt Modified Padding Type: Critical Current Service Window Count: 20

What does this show for you?

When I ask him, if memory serves, says something about enough work has been performed, come try again later. I could get the exact message if you want.

I would like to see a copy/paste please if he's not showing you the summary listed above.

Sacru
Tuesday, August 29th, 2017, 7:16:24 PM

@alastir said in WPS Chart::

I would like to see a copy/paste please if he's not showing you the summary listed above.

A dwarven blacksmith assistant grumbles, "Your black scale armor has gone through enough, don't ya think? The smith won't be able to do much more with that anytime soon."

Alastir
Tuesday, August 29th, 2017, 7:18:41 PM

That's not good, they should be giving the summary again and show that you've used all of the service points available on that item.

@Estild @Wyrom @Coase

Sacru
Tuesday, August 29th, 2017, 7:59:17 PM

I think the issue on this run is they are limiting the amount of services because they're still working on the scaling algorithm. Probably don't want to commit to anything yet.

I was honestly hoping the per-item limit was not going to be 25 (or 26, what have you) but rather, per invite. Such is life.

archigeek
Tuesday, August 29th, 2017, 8:16:55 PM

Is it 25 services per invite or per item? Can I do 15 services each on 5 different items, or is it a total of 25 per invite regardless of how I spread it out?

Ordim
Tuesday, August 29th, 2017, 8:21:23 PM

1 item inside the smithy per invite - 25 services on a single item this run of duskruin. so even if you only use 10 services on an item, thats your 1 invite. You can use all 25 on a single item, but even with a second invite you cant do any more.

Alastir
Tuesday, August 29th, 2017, 8:24:34 PM

[8:11 PM] Wyrom: Combat related items won't change in pricing. [8:11 PM] Wyrom: Just as an FYI. [8:11 PM] Wyrom: Fusion will not be any cheaper than it is now. [8:12 PM] Wyrom: Services are just maxed at 25 for the NPC right now. [8:12 PM] Wyrom: (This run of Duskruin) [8:12 PM] Wyrom: The 25 service limit might not exist at other venues.

Sabotage
Tuesday, August 29th, 2017, 9:21:36 PM

@ordim thats kinda weak.

Ordim
Tuesday, August 29th, 2017, 9:22:42 PM

I don't make the rules. I just bitch about them.

Alastir
Friday, September 1st, 2017, 2:17:18 AM

@Zissu posted http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Hunting%20and%20Combat/Weighting%20and%20Padding/view/304

assess values Assess moved over to using scale values and because of that, the gaps in between in between two assess ranks go to the higher reading even though the combat effectiveness has not moved up yet. I'll address this with my assess changes.

Zissu - Combat and Magic Systems Dev Lackey

Alastir
Friday, September 1st, 2017, 2:19:42 AM

Kerl Voln and Ithzir scripts both seem to have gone down after getting the green light via "ask about special." Mine appears to have gone down about 12%. I'll assist about it.

Voln has, and is based upon how many unlocks the armor has. Ithzir hasn't yet, as it's still being reviewed.

GameMaster Estild